tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post2351417155918912742..comments2024-03-08T23:13:42.780-06:00Comments on Hockey Blog In Canada: The Axe Has FallenTeebzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-87909543444051703352007-11-28T08:57:00.000-06:002007-11-28T08:57:00.000-06:00It's still a relevant measurement as to how a play...It's still a relevant measurement as to how a player performs in a 5-on-5 situation which, for most of the game, is how the game is played.<BR/><BR/>There are no plus/minus stats handed out for powerplays because the team with more players has an obvious advantage.<BR/><BR/>When a team is playing against a team that has pulled its goalie, there are still only five minuses given to the team with five non-goaltender players, not six.<BR/>And that is the correct call because the advantages are even: one team has more offenive players to score a goal in exchange for the risk of having an empty-net goal scored against them.<BR/><BR/>I look at it this way. Last season, Sheldon Souray scored 26 goals and 38 assists for 64 points in 81 games. Those are fairly decent stats. He also scored 19 PP goals. However, he was a -28 overall, meaning he was on the ice for 28 more even-strength goals scored against Montreal than the Canadiens scored. That's simply brutal.<BR/><BR/>Yes, he has a cannon-like slapshot, but he is lost in defensive zone coverage.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-32851099376418332012007-11-27T22:48:00.000-06:002007-11-27T22:48:00.000-06:00Sometimes I think plus/minus is misleading. Exampl...Sometimes I think plus/minus is misleading. Example: A D-man passes up ice and goes off for a change. One more pass, shot, score. An assist for the D-man, but no plus because he'd gone off, and a guy who just showed up and had nothing to do with the play gets the plus. And the empty-net plus-minuses are also a misleading reflection. If an attacking team scores a goal, it gets six pluses (or, if it's scored on, it gets six minuses). But I haven't been able to figure out a better way to do it... I mean, a guy scores a 3-on-5 goal, shouldn't he get two pluses???bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15666007757313640686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-70372676759841095082007-11-26T19:33:00.000-06:002007-11-26T19:33:00.000-06:00Hmm...touche, sir. I guess I always forget that t...Hmm...touche, sir. I guess I always forget that the +/- stat is for even strength situations... But I see your point.Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07131044718177467718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-9640287571897177882007-11-23T13:16:00.000-06:002007-11-23T13:16:00.000-06:00Plus/minus is the reflection of the number of goal...Plus/minus is the reflection of the number of goals scored by your team or on your team while you're on the ice in an even-strength situation. It is a very telling stat to give you an idea how a player performs in an even-strength situation since most of the game is played 5-on-5.<BR/><BR/>The fact that Ovechkin is a zero suggests his team scores as many goals during even-strength play as they give up. That means that he's either scoring goals or stopping them. Zetterburg is a +9, but scores a pile of his points on the powerplay, meaning he's average in plus/minus. Heatley, though, is a beast during even-strength, and his plus/minus reflects that. He has been on the ice for 15 more even-strength goals than his team has given up.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-39877551612671882872007-11-23T10:42:00.000-06:002007-11-23T10:42:00.000-06:00I have wondered (on more than one occasion) what t...I have wondered (on more than one occasion) what the deal is with the +/- stat. And it wasn't until recently where I've heard other people question it's function as well. So I don't feel so dumb in asking: what's the deal with the +/-? <BR/><BR/>Wikipedia has a good overview of it, but don't you think the stat is more of a reflection of how the team is doing as a whole rather than a player as an individual? Take Alex Ovechkin (since this post is about the Caps), you can't deny his talents, but when you look at his +/- he's a 0. Why? Because the team is doing terribly.<BR/><BR/>Henrik Zetterburg - he's +9 and his team is dominating the West.<BR/>Dany Heatly - +15 and the Sens are annihilating the East.<BR/><BR/>So, is it wrong to argue that this particular stat isn't as relevant as other stats when looking at individual players?Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07131044718177467718noreply@blogger.com