tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post7959023346046321597..comments2024-03-08T23:13:42.780-06:00Comments on Hockey Blog In Canada: Draft ThoughtsTeebzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-89621445519693394692012-06-26T20:12:35.949-05:002012-06-26T20:12:35.949-05:00Another great post, couldnt agree more about pitts...Another great post, couldnt agree more about pittsburgh. Anyway I decided to finally start up my own blog after following this one forever. If you could add me to your hockey blogs section it would be amazing as im just starting up. The link is: https://fiveholegrinders.wordpress.com/<br />Thanks and keep up the great workAnonymoushttps://fiveholegrinders.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-55886270693403112332012-06-26T17:27:02.723-05:002012-06-26T17:27:02.723-05:00Second Anon - you talk like you're Garth Snow....Second Anon - you talk like you're Garth Snow. Easing him into the lineup in 1-2 years is a good timetable, but he could be playing with the Isles this season. Good for him if he does, but I think defencemen should be left in the minors longer.<br /><br />Detroit seems to have the same idea. They let their players mature in Grand Rapids, and they get great return. Lidstrom, the standard for defencemen today, played three seasons in Sweden before jumping to the NHL. He didn't come out of Sweden as "the next one", but as a solid defenceman. From there, he got better as an NHL defenceman, but he never looked like he was overwhelmed.<br /><br />Chara is a perfect example of a big kid needing extra time to develop. He was drafted in 1996, and was moved in 2001 to Ottawa. He was just starting to hit his stride five years after playing the pro game. 3-5 years? Fits like a glove.<br /><br />Chris Pronger broke into the league in 1993, and didn't become the solid defenceman we know him as until 1997. 3-5 years? Once again, it fits.<br /><br />Go back to the Isles' dynasty years. They allowed the kids to grow together. Bossy, Trottier, Potvin, Smith, and Morrow were vital cogs who grew together, and they added a couple of veteran pieces. That's how to build good hockey teams, and history continues to show that the great NHL teams have all followed this method (albeit with different ranges of success). NYI, Calgary, Edmonton, New Jersey, Detroit, and Colorado all followed this method quite well during they heydays. Los Angeles is doing the same thing right now.<br /><br />As for Hamonic being the best Isles defenceman? That's an opinion, and I welcome it. Statistically, I'd agree with you, but I watched him with Brandon when he dominated the WHL. He needs to regain that same confidence and control the game. Does he have it in him? Absolutely. He just needs to find a way to bring it out.<br /><br />And as for watching the Isles, I try to catch as many games as possible. I like the team. I own a Kasparaitis Fisherman and a traditional Satan jersey. But we don't get MSG in my neck of the woods, and it isn't offered. Therefore, I can only catch games that are on the NHL Network, TSN, CBC, or the Jets TSN feed. I maybe see 10-12 Islanders games per year because of my Canadian limitations.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-79416858514054642692012-06-26T16:57:55.789-05:002012-06-26T16:57:55.789-05:00First Anon - I hear you. The youth movement is an ...First Anon - I hear you. The youth movement is an excellent idea, but I'm still in the belief that allowing the younger players to flourish in Bridgeport is a good idea. I'm excited for the the future of the Islanders, especially if everyone starts hitting their potential at the same time.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-18040633001578701342012-06-26T09:20:41.987-05:002012-06-26T09:20:41.987-05:00Teebz,
How can you predict Reinhart will not be e...Teebz,<br /><br />How can you predict Reinhart will not be eased into the roster?In 1-2more yrs,Hamonic,MacDonald De Haan and Donovan,the isles best young blueliners between their nhl and ahl teams,should all be nhlers,their development ahead of Reinhart's.<br /><br /><br /><br />The summer the isles traded the 6' 9" Chara,he was about 22 and other teams were starting to take notice of his development.He was improving his skating.The trade deadline before he was dealt,the Flyers tried to trade for him.Isles knew he had high potential and he was a key trade chip.<br /><br />22 yr old Hamonic is the isles best defenseman,so we have another disagreement.Next to Tavares,he is the the NYI best young player.<br /><br />Do you actually watch the isles play?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-90037189869189607782012-06-26T09:09:49.572-05:002012-06-26T09:09:49.572-05:00Teebz,
Isles have seen several players reluctant...Teebz, <br /><br />Isles have seen several players reluctantly join the team,only to see them come to enjoy it and push to remain when their contracts ended.We'll see on Vis.I'm more concerned with whether he can bounce back offensively in 2012-2013,how much an impact he'll have on the Isles pp.<br /><br /><br />Moulson's coming off a career high 36 goals and Tavares a career high 81 pts.I am not worried about who's on their line.Tavares can put up points next to anybody.<br /><br /><br />Botta tweeted that Nabokov will be the #1,either Poulin or Nilson the #2 and RD the #3.Isles realize DiPietro can't stay healthy. <br /><br />Isles are in a youth movement.They are building with their kids.De Haan,Donovan and Ness were eached briefly called up to the Isles from the AHL,when injuries hit this season.Each played well.Isles will have one play sheltered 3rd pairing mins ,be mentored by Streit and Vis,two vets who's contracts end in 2013.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-60492900225565029022012-06-25T21:34:42.563-05:002012-06-25T21:34:42.563-05:00@ Pete - I thought Calgary did well, but it won...@ Pete - I thought Calgary did well, but it won't change their standing for at least a couple of seasons. They certainly made a good move in moving down the draft while focusing on Jankowski, but Calgary needs to start building talent now.<br /><br />They just don't have the roster right now to win, so they need to start stocking the cupboards while they have that luxury.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-88291058229739465602012-06-25T21:32:06.163-05:002012-06-25T21:32:06.163-05:00I agree that Reinhart might be 1-2 years away, and...I agree that Reinhart might be 1-2 years away, and that's a good timetable. He's an above-average player, so I expect his development to be ahead of schedule. But there is still a large gap between the AHL and the NHL, so he should be eased into the pro game at the NHL level. Let him develop into a premier defenceman the right way by not rushing him up the ranks.<br /><br />As for the last "Anonymous" comment, if you thought Chara was developing nicely on the Island, I'm not sure what team you were following in the mid-1990s. He was lost at best. 11 and 9 points in two seasons, and he was a -27 in both seasons. He was the biggest pylon on the ice. He moves to Ottawa, and he scores 23 points and was a +30 in his first season with the Senators.<br /><br />Hamonic is coming along, but his play is still spotty at best. I don't expect him to be a Norris candidate immediately, but he could have used another season in the AHL. 26 and 24 points in two seasons is nice, and he's been a plus player as well. That's great! He's certainly coming along, but I think he could have done more time in Bridegport and been further ahead. 7 points in 19 games seems to indicate that.<br /><br />I have can't speak for the Islanders at all, but rushing all of this good young talent to the big league isn't always the best idea.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-52524156674383695442012-06-25T21:23:48.683-05:002012-06-25T21:23:48.683-05:00Visnovsky, like Nabokov, may sign, but there's...Visnovsky, like Nabokov, may sign, but there's still no guarantee. If St. Petersburg offers $4 mil/season tax-free, would the Isles give him that? Would he take less to play there? That's a difficult question to answer.<br /><br />I hope the Islanders can get Ryan. Tavares' and Moulson's numbers will certainly benefit from his addition.<br /><br />I agree that Poulin or Nilson could be a backup, but you have Nabokov, and there's that 15-year contract that's still lurking. Keeping them in Bridgeport isn't a bad thing. Look at Cory Schneider.<br /><br />De Haan can certainly play 10 minutes a night, but why not put him in Bridgeport where he can play 20? Give him NHL minutes in the AHL, and let him become a premier defender. Ditto for Donovan and Ness. If the Isles are building for the future, why rush it?Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-12971576497670557862012-06-25T20:34:51.102-05:002012-06-25T20:34:51.102-05:00What did you think of Calgary's draft? I thou...What did you think of Calgary's draft? I thought they reached on their first pick...even after trading down to acquire an additional pick. I get the feeling that it will turn into a bust pick like so many others in the last 20 years or so for the Flames.Peter Santellanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03296710730176114356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-65264776287875364142012-06-25T19:44:57.001-05:002012-06-25T19:44:57.001-05:00Teebz,you clearly don't watch the NYI play.
Y...Teebz,you clearly don't watch the NYI play.<br /><br />Your statement that Chara,a 3rd rounder and Hamonic,a 2nd rounder,were disappointments or struggled show that.<br /><br />22 yr old Hamonic is developing very well,playing over 22 mins a game.<br />Maybe ya should comment on teams you actually watch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-88072402501247707622012-06-25T19:23:31.564-05:002012-06-25T19:23:31.564-05:00Teeba, nhl scouts were saying Reinhart was 1-2 yrs...Teeba, nhl scouts were saying Reinhart was 1-2 yrs away BEFORE the draft.<br /><br />No one is rushing Reinhart into the NHL by saying he'll be on the isles roster in 2013-2014 or 2014-2015.<br /><br />That ETA is from different scouting reports.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-57817623734768766642012-06-25T19:18:47.139-05:002012-06-25T19:18:47.139-05:00Teebz,Isles scout Trent Klatt is an ex-teammate of...Teebz,Isles scout Trent Klatt is an ex-teammate of Vis.You can bet Snow and Klatt have been playing phone tag with Vis,selling him on a season in LI.Imo Vis will be playing on LI next season and enjoy like Nabokov did this season.<br /><br />Chris Botta reported today that the Isles and Ducks have been in talks about Bobby Ryan.The isles are losing Parenteau and have his salary to put towards Ryan's salary.<br /><br /><br />Poulin and Nilson both had strong 2011-2012 AHL seasons,leading Bridgeport to the Division crown.Snow has indicated he expects one of them to challenge for the #2 goalie spot.<br /><br />Isles are not counting in the 19-22 yr olds Kabanov, Nelson, and Niederreiter to contribute next season.I pointed out they were the NYI top forward prospects because the writer seem to think the isles,had no top forward prospects.Questioning why they took no forwards in this yr's draft.<br /><br /><br />With Streit,Vis,Hamonic and MacDonald,the isles aren't asking rookies De Haan, Donovan, or Ness to be game-breakers.<br />Snow says he expects 1 of them to be on the Isles roster.That one will be getting 3rd paring minutes.<br />The other two will be getting a lot of icetime in the AHL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-92209081841883695002012-06-25T16:35:57.596-05:002012-06-25T16:35:57.596-05:00@Anonymous #2 - Reinhart is close, but so was Chri...@Anonymous #2 - Reinhart is close, but so was Chris Pronger if you believed the critics when he joined Hartford. It takes, on average, defencemen 3-5 years to fully develop at the professional level in the AHL, and another 1-2 at the NHL level. Rushing Reinhart to the Island will be similar to what they did to Chara and Hamonic. None were ready to step in immediately, and a couple of years of seasoning certainly would have helped them.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-43377647518715572932012-06-25T16:33:59.082-05:002012-06-25T16:33:59.082-05:00@Anonymous #1 - Visnovsky's change of heart is...@Anonymous #1 - Visnovsky's change of heart is great, but he'll play where he's paid the most money. Guaranteed.<br /><br />Poulin, Nilson, and Koskinen are nowhere near NHL ready if the Islanders want to finish outside of the Atlantic division cellar.<br /><br />Kabanov, Nelson, and Niederreiter are nowhere close to being productive contributors at the NHL level. They'll need at least a year or two in the AHL for sure.<br /><br />De Haan, Donovan, and Ness can certainly try to make the team, and I hope they do. Just don't expect them to be game-breakers.Teebzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00538474727022437837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-23053422651050247302012-06-25T16:11:32.458-05:002012-06-25T16:11:32.458-05:00Read a few scouting reports.
Scouts are saying Rei...Read a few scouting reports.<br />Scouts are saying Reinhart will be in the nhl,in 1-2 yrs.<br /><br />When he was drafted,the drafts announcers said he was close to nhl ready.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-16996772907825996482012-06-25T11:13:01.024-05:002012-06-25T11:13:01.024-05:001.Visnovksy is now telling the NY press he will pl...1.Visnovksy is now telling the NY press he will play for the isles next season.<br /><br />2.Isles have top goalie prospects Poulin and Nilson developing well in the AHL.Koskinen is playing in Finland. <br /><br />3.Isles have scoring prospects Kabanov,Nelson,Niederriter headed to the AHL.<br /><br />4.Isles expect defensemen De Haan,<br />Donovan and Ness to take 1 or 2 nhl spots next season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5906875144542272320.post-18742720626642318312012-06-25T07:27:13.889-05:002012-06-25T07:27:13.889-05:00Pittsburgh clearly helped themselves despite losin...Pittsburgh clearly helped themselves despite losing two key players. The Michalek trade opens the door for either Simon Despres or Joe Morrow, or they could go after a big name free agent. I get the feeling Zach Parise will get a harder look than Ryan Suter, seeing as the Penguins have a lot of depth. When it comes to Columbus, they need help everywhere, and that includes depth in goal. When you go through Steve Mason, Curtis Sanford, and Allen York, you know you need help. However, I get the feeling Rick Nash will remain a Blue Jacket because unless Howson reduces his demands a little, the trade isn't going to happen. More and more, it looks like the Islanders are becoming the place no one wants to go to, particularly when you think of Visnovsky thinking about the KHL and Nabokov refusing to report to the Isles a couple of years back.Peter Santellanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03296710730176114356noreply@blogger.com